A Lady Born Under A Curse (la_veuve_chibi) wrote in feminists4life,
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Stupak, innocent children get death threats; irony meters go up to 11.

Stupak, the Michigan Democrat whose last-minute compromise on abortion guaranteed passage of the bill Sunday, said callers have left messages for him saying, "You’re dead; we know where you live; we’ll get you."

Slaughter, a Democrat who chairs the House Rules Committee, said a caller to her office last week vowed to send snipers to "kill the children of the members who voted yes."


Emphasis mine; from http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34907.html#ixzz0jCQDxknN

My response is mostly, how can we distance ourselves from these crazy anti-life fuckwads? There seriously needs to be some kind of official schism, whatever these people call themselves, I'm not calling myself that. I'll even become an otherkin if necessary to call myself a different species.

Just....what the fuck, y'all?!
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I never refer to myself as prolife. "Anti-abortion" and "pro non-violent choice" are the two labels I use, though I happily admit to being closer to the prolife movement than the prochoice movement on abortion issues.
I'm becoming the same way. Anti-abortion, while it once irritated me, actually describes me quite well at this point.
I heard on the news last nite that they'd been getting threats, but the audio they gave wasn't threatening! They cussed, but that's not a threat.

Maybe I'm just cynical, but I'd have to hear the audio to believe it. Plus, there's a possibility that some people (who are NOT prolife) are leaving msgs like that to make prolifers seem all crazy-o.

Then again, people can be batshit insane...
Jill Stanek has an interesting post on this.

I'm a bit skeptical myself. Stupak barely made passing mention of the threats he was getting before this vote (although he was apparently getting so many that his wife unplugged the phones in their house to get some peace), but now he's suddenly got nothing else to talk about? To be honest, it seems like he's mentioning them now because he's hoping that pro-lifers will have to agree with him by default by distancing ourselves from whoever made the threats. And then he'll be back on the pro-lifers side, right? *eyeroll*

In terms of how to distance ourselves from crazy people, the simple solution is to be not crazy. We don't need to spend all our time pointing out that crazy people do crazy things. Of course they do. They're crazy. The pro-life movement is one of the longest running civil rights movements in history and is by far the most non-violent. In the time since Roe was passed by SCOTUS, there have been only three people killed by anyone calling themselves pro-life (and, having murdered someone, they pretty much prove that they aren't really pro-life), and that's counting George Tiller. And if you'll watch videos of clinic protests, or campus displays, there's more than enough evidence to conclude that pro-lifers virtually never respond with violence, often even in situations where they are physically threatened in some way (minor in the videos I've watched, admittedly).

Simply put, the idea that the pro-life movement is somehow chock-full of dangerous extremists who will start throwing punches at the drop of a hat is an enormous lie. And it's patently ridiculous when stacked against the fact that a fractional majority of the US is pro-life. It's literally impossible for 50% of ~350,000,000 million people to all be violent crazies.

I think it's a bad idea to back off of the label "pro-life" because there are those who would like to call themselves that who misuse it to carry out anti-life agendas. I think that's just as bad an idea as it is to back off of the label "feminist" because there are people who would misuse that to carry out misandryst, anti-feminist, violent, or just plain crazy agendas with that as well. The best way to combat it is to absolutely call ourselves pro-life and, when asked, point out that these people clearly are not--whatever they might be calling themselves.
IDK, I sorta feel like we shouldn't HAVE to... I mean, we can condemn it when it happens, but every movement has these crazies.

Additionally, I'm not at all sure that these particular crazies were motivated by abortion at all. If you ask me, it's more likely that they're upset about SOCIALIZED MEDICINE!!11!!1ONE!! which is going to bring down our great American republic and usher in communism don't you know. *rolls eyes*